What's the opportunity in IoT security for your channel partners? Can partners make money from securing IoT devices?
DeBell: [IoT security] is the scenario, where partners step back and say, 'We're going to see it first and identify what it is, and after we see it, help you control it and orchestrate the policies.' And from an integration standpoint look across all the vendors, whether it's Cisco or HPE, or any of the other 70 or so vendors that we align with. We're in a spot that we help those products become better and help those situations that you're describing in the IoT space become more secure.